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posted: 05/07/11 at 5:40 AM
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Yay! I haven't seen it yet, but really want to.
I've actually met the actor who plays Thor (Chris Hemsworth). He's an Australian actor who started off acting in soapies, so when he visited my town one day I thought I'd go pay him a visit hehe... he's as gorgeous in real life as he is on the screen I can assure you! Wish I could find the picture I have with him...
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posted: 05/07/11 at 6:16 PM
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I got to see this last night, I wasnt as impressed. A few things I noticed were introductions were quicker than they should to be left satisfied with understanding each character and their motivations. The only characters that had strong character development were Thor, Odin and the Frost Giant King. You didnt understand the characters well enough to really grasp their randomness in pushing the storyline along. It was still entertaining, but I felt it lacked fluidity. I give it a 6/1O because of the story issues I talk about below. IF you dont want to know the story, then dont read my spoiler alerts!
SPOILER ALERT!
Also Everything seemed too convinient. Everyone popped up at the right time to get the story accomplished. A government ran group would NEVER just let some random dude walk in to pluck out an incredibly dangerous guy out of their grasp. Thor would have simply been in military jail because he threatened the safety of others. I know its SHIELD, but we got to be reasonable about the consequences here. They didnt know he was the God of Thunder, so why should they release him? He could be a spy for all they know.
Also what was up with the lack of continuity with the few frost giants coming in? Some died..wtf are the others that passed the gate keeper go? There was at least 2-4 that passed the gate keeper and they never showed up on film. Only the leader did.
Lokis motivation was very bizarre. After he found out his true nature...now he wanted to kill the home world of the giants? Where the hell did that come from? There was no real motivation for it besides he wanted pappas love. His actions are so random that they become confusing. Ok he wanted to rule without Thor in the way, typical of most movies about royal brothers, but his actions didnt have enough build up to make sense. First hes mad at father, then he wants the frost giants to kill him, then he kills the frost giants. WHOA....confusing. Make up your mind dude. There seemed no real reason to be that angry in the first place. There were gaps in the story missing to justify the understanding of anger. He seemed the more reasonable brother, but he lacked so much desire to understand his father.
The last thing was loki and thors battle. Loki was never presented as a warrior anywhere in the film. Yes I assume they were both taught to fight, but right from the beginning Thor was presented as the more aggressive one. While Loki was presented more as the trickster, pacifier, so it really puzzled me how he matched Thors fighting abilities which in my mind should never happen. You would figure being the weaker of the two, he would have played a lot more tricks than fight him in brute combat which thor was better at.
I know marvel movies dont always have the best stories because they have to compress years of comics into a 2 hour span, but they lacked a lot of detail that could have made this much better in my opinion. Just a bit more time to bring the characters into light and motivations would have been much more defining with story.
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 posted: 05/11/11 at 8:43 AM
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Hi JoeyV,
I have to agree with you, Thor was FANTASTIC!
Thanks to my SO I now watch these kinds of movies too ;-) and let's just say there is a new convert... He is catching me up on everything before, and now I can't wait for the next Marvel movie!
Like you said, it definitely does have SOMETHING for everyone 
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posted: 05/16/11 at 11:39 PM
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I've seen Thor thrice now ><
@fair_is_fair:
I see what you're saying in all regards. The things you mentioned were mostly things that the audience is expected to assume, although I feel the director did a bad job at helping the audience out, and this could have been fixed by throwing in a couple seconds worth of cut scenes appropriately(Although the film was already 1hr54mins).
*THOR SPOILER ALERT*
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So far as Coulson letting Thor leave his custody, yes, it might seem whacky, but I was okay with it from what I could assume:
-Thor didn't attempt to kill anyone when he was on his mission to reunite with Mjolnir, he was also unarmed aside from swiping the first set of guards' rifle only to disarm them and butt them with it. In action films where the good guys fight the good guys, one of the parties mention that the first set of good guys chose not to take lives, or there's a reflecting cut scene to show acknowledgement of this; it's necessary to understand empathy for the audience. So I really wish they had done this in Thor, but they didn't ><<<.
-SHIELD also may have known what Mjolnir was at the time based on research that wasn't mentioned in the movie, therefore also assuming Thor was Thor. Thor never tells SHIELD his name, and so they never talk about it between him and Coulson. Coulson could have always been playing dumb. After all, Coulson does let Thor have at 'er when he reaches Mjolnir, and could have stopped his escapades at anytime with Hawkeye up in the crane's basket. Hawkeye even says "want me to slow him down?" rather than "want me to blow his head off?" lol.
-Coulson also knows that the researchers Jane, Darcy and Eric are just that, and most likely don't have any evil plans of their own. He also knows that they are damn good at what they do(and they even work for SHIELD by the end of the movie). So after interrogating Thor, and getting nowhere, and knowing Eric is of no threat, Coulson sets Thor free to be followed by his agents, maybe he can get information that way.
So far as the frost giants near the end passing through the Bifrost, there were 4 including Laufey. Heimdall(the watcher/gatekeeper) kills two of them when he breaks out of the ice. Laufey and the third frost giant enter Odin's room where his wife, Frigga(Rene Russo) kills the no-name frost giant, and Laufey slaps her out of his way.
I agree that Loki wasn't developed as obviously as I would have liked for more reasons than just this film.
You have to remember, which is very easy for anyone that already knows the lore behind Thor, Marvel comics aside, that Loki is a trickster, a manipulator, and a master of illusion. I'm sad that they didn't press how important this was for this film. I didn't let this bother me though based on I was here to watch "Thor" not "Loki" whose own lore is rich too, and a whole different movie could have been made for.
The hints about wtf Loki was up to were too subtle imo. But here's how it broke down:
-Loki's powers of illusion passively put up a human-like facade, for his personal survival since he was a baby
-For many years Loki wanted to be loved by his people and his father as Thor was
-That desire turns to jealousy
-Loki thwarts Thor's inauguration to "save his kingdom from Thor's idiotic reign"
-Loki realizes his true nature, and this probably sends him into madness.
-Loki misleads Laufey(and the audience) into thinking he wants his father dead, and makes the deal to have Odin murdered.
- Loki makes sure that his mother sees him destroy Laufey, saving Odin's life, appearing a hero, and giving him a reason to destroy Jodenheim(Asgard's only potential enemy). In his madness, this is done to prove to Odin that Loki is fit to be king. He explains this to Thor in their battle.
So far as Thor and Loki's battle:
Thor knows he's stronger, and loves his maddened brother and refuses to fight him. Loki essentially gets a bunch of cheap shots in to fuel Thor's rage. The two times they leap at each other and clash, Thor overpowers Loki. Loki does resort to illusions and trickery, but I agree the imagery presented in his fighting style didn't portray the Loki that we all know, there could have been a lot more done. But so far as matching them up, Loki didn't use enough of his sorcery, therefore Thor outplayed him as he should have. I have a big problem with Loki in this film too, and I'll tell ya why in the next paragraph which could be taken as a spoiler:
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*AVENGERS SPOILER ALERT*
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So far as all the movies that lead up to The Avengers, none of the villains really seem like a big deal, they all seem dealt with already(save for the Captain America movie, question mark?). Upon viewing the Internet Movie Database(IMDb), Loki is the only villain listed in the cast and crew :/
Considering the teaser after the credits for Thor, it looks like they're sticking true to the comic book forming of The Avengers with Loki manipulating The Hulk.
My problem is that Loki appeared to be a big wuss in Thor.
So I have a feeling it will be cool to see all our heroes in one Avengers movie, but I think the story and portrayal is gonna suck the big one  (( Edward Norton isn't even in it.
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What annoyed me is a guy I went to the movie with got high, then sat and watched it, fell asleep for a fair bit of it, didn't even understand the Stan Lee cameo, as in, doesn't know who Stan Lee is, and told a bunch of people I know that the movie sucked. When everyone in the theatre laughed at the cameo at the midnight release, and the laughter subsided, that guy goes "I don't get it. It wasn't that funny." After the movie I inquired about his thoughts at that moment, then facepalmed.
Him and a couple other guys I know said there definately wasn't enough action in it, therefore they did not enjoy it, and I know some people aren't going to watch Thor because of this feedback. People drive me crazy.
And then there's people like Fair_is_Fair and myself that really hope for a developing and meaningful story to be told that one could assume would push out a bit of action. Sigh, Can't please everyone ><<<
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posted: 05/18/11 at 2:50 PM
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| lol. I think this was a case of a lot of assumptions about the audience. They assumed the majority of the people read the comics and didnt have to explain much. Unfortunately they were wrong.
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posted: 05/19/11 at 5:45 AM
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I mainly wanted to see it because I want to see all the movies before the avengers comes out. The only one Im missing is the new Hulk movie that came out a few years back. I still like Iron Man the best.  Robert downey jr is so hot!! But besides that...I always liked iron man even before I knew who he was when I had the captain america avengers game for the sega genesis. He was the guy I always would pick.
Im excited about Captain America to come out, I just have to turn off my logic sensors to an experiment that turns a dweeb into a fighting hunk. LOL.
I dont understand why people wouldnt see it because they dont know anything about Thor. Isnt that the case for EVERY movie? Some movies are based off of books, but others are completely original scripts...do they not watch those movies too because they cant relate before hand? A total fallacy in logic, it makes zero sense. They should just watch the damn movie. At the very least they should know a little bit about Norwegian mythology right? Thor, Odin, loki....all part of norse myth...no different here...except we got robots, the military and ice giant craziness added in.
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posted: 05/25/11 at 1:10 AM
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ya, ppl are dumb.
I honestly never cared for Iron Man ever, but his moves were really cool in Marvel Vs Capcom, so I played him and Ken, it was great, lol. Comic-wise, I was more Ghost Rider and Bishop(not very popular characters, sadface).
But Robert Downey Jr's portrayal was flawless imo! You obviously know what I'm sayin', so I don't have to put it into words here, but I definitely gained a respect for Iron Man, and I guess Robert Downey Jr. after I saw that movie.
And same with Thor. I never thought Thor was cool, I thought the story was boring. Plus there was a patch in World of Warcraft that was based on the Norse mythology, and I really hated that patch, it was atrocious imo, and I was sick of it.
But after seeing the movie, and seeing what was done with the potential, I loved it.
I gotta tell ya though. You REALLY should see The Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton. It is infinitely better than the Eric Bana version.
I actually felt cheated because I didn't even see all of the Bana version because it was so bad, and because of this I didn't watch the Norton version until recently, I just really didn't think they could redeem themselves. I should have known better though, as Norton was in the movie 
But ya, don't be fooled as I was, check out the Norton version, it is sooo much better.
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